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Report ID 6687 Title Obnovovanie rún
Product DeathKnight Status Opravené (Severity 4 - High)

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Report ID #6687: Obnovovanie rún

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 11:41 AM

Po použití akejkoľvek runy v prípade, že je použitá skorej ako 2,5sek po obnovení sa má runa obnoviť po 10 sekundách (funguje)

V prípade, že sa runa použije neskôr ako 2,5s má jej cooldown byť 7,5sek (nefunguje)

Veľa je o tom písané TU


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Posted 22 August 2011 - 08:02 AM

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To neni uplne presne receno.

Ma to byt tak, ze pokud pouzijes runu behem 2,5sec po obnoveni, tak jeji cd bude (10 - cas_od_obnoveni). Jak tedle 2,5sec uplyne, tak pak uz tj vzdycky 10sec.

Cili priklad:
0.0 - Rune used!
0.5 - refreshing
1.0 - refreshing
1.5 - refreshing
2.0 - refreshing
2.5 - refreshing
3.0 - refreshing
3.5 - refreshing
4.0 - refreshing
4.5 - refreshing
5.0 - refreshing
5.5 - refreshing
6.0 - refreshing
6.5 - refreshing
7.0 - refreshing
7.5 - refreshing
8.0 - refreshing
8.5 - refreshing
9.0 - refreshing
9.5 - refreshing
10.0 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD BEGINS
10.5 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD
11.0 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD
11.5 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD
12.0 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD
12.5 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD
13.0 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 23.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD EXPIRED; normal functionality
13.5 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 23.5
14.0 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 24.0

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 08:48 AM

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If a rune comes off cooldown there are two cases:

A) You use that same rune again in x seconds, where x < 2.5. The cooldown on that rune then is 10-x seconds.
B] You use that same rune again at least 2.5 seconds after it comes off cooldown. The cooldown on that rune will then be 7.5 seconds.


Chápem to správne? Použijem runu, nabehne cd 10s, po obnovení počkám 2,6s, použijem runu, nabehne cd 7.5s

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10.0 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD BEGINS
10.5 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD
11.0 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD
11.5 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD
12.0 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD
12.5 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD
13.0 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 23.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD EXPIRED; normal functionality
13.5 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 23.5
14.0 - Rune ready! If used now, can use again at 24.0


Podľa tohto bude jej aj pred uplninutím 2,5sek aj po cd stále 10s

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 09:02 AM

A) You use that same rune again in x seconds, where x < 2.5. The cooldown on that rune then is 10-x seconds.
B] You use that same rune again at least 2.5 seconds after it comes off cooldown. The cooldown on that rune will then be 7.5 seconds.

Priklad A:
Pouzijes runu 2sec po refreshnuti. Cooldown je pak 10 - 2 = 8sec.

Cili se jakoby neustale drzis maximalni efektivity vyuzivani cd a to s 10sec prodlevou.

ad. B je podle me spatne, melo by to byt 10sec, nikoliv 7,5sec, ale tak pouzival sem jinej zdroj nez ty

edit: co sem koukal, tak to co si postnul ty tady je i psany na AT bugreportu (navic i ten dev tam pise, ze to tam asi opravovat nebude, protoze neni dostatek dukazu), jen podle vsech ostatnich zdroju to ma byt vicemene jak pisu ja s tim rozdilem, ze tam zase jednou napisou 1,5s, podruhy 2s - v tom ohledu se zase priklanim k 2,5s protoze to je zase u komentare k nejakymu DK addonu

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 10:04 AM

Neviem ako to má byť správne, na offi som nikdy nehral, vždy len tu. Skúsim niečo ešte pohľadať ale keď to neprejde tak to neprejde =) Díky za rýchlu odozvu

Nemáte niekto kontakt na Strikera? On tuším písal, že hral DK na ofi, možno bude vedieť

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 09:48 AM

Tak som našiel ďalší dôkaz, že niečo také má existovať.

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When you use a rune, it gets placed on cooldown. Normally, the time until you can use the rune again is 10 seconds; however, when a rune finishes cooling down, you have a two-second “grace period”–for example, if your rune finishes cooling down, and you wait one second to use it again, the rune will be placed on a nine second cooldown; if you waited two seconds, it would be on an eight second cooldown. Eight seconds is the shortest the cooldown will ever be, unless an attack doesn’t land, in which case the cooldown is only one second.


Píše sa tam ak to chápem správne, že po dobehnutí cooldownu na runu a počkaní 2 sekund má runa dostať 8sekundový cooldown čo je najviac možné skrátenie..

Opäť iné číslo :) rozdiel 0,5s

http://www.thealtoho...-knight-basics/ Zdroj

+ som našiel aj to čo si písal ty, celé som si to prečítal

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Rune grace period! If the Runes just came off CD but you have a KM ready or are nearly overflowing with RP then you can FS and OB 1,5 sec later. Because of the rune grace period you don't lose any time on your runes! They will start with 8,5 sec left to cooldown instead 10 sec, if you used them 1,5 sec earlier. 8,5 + 1,5 = 10 sec. It doesn't push your runes back, since the cooldown starts lower. This is soooo important to understand how it works.

futhark:
0.0 - Use :contestblood: , can use again at 10.0
0.5 - refreshing
1.0 - refreshing
1.5 - refreshing
2.0 - refreshing
2.5 - refreshing
3.0 - refreshing
3.5 - refreshing
4.0 - refreshing
4.5 - refreshing
5.0 - refreshing
5.5 - refreshing
6.0 - refreshing
6.5 - refreshing
7.0 - refreshing
7.5 - refreshing
8.0 - refreshing
8.5 - refreshing
9.0 - refreshing
9.5 - refreshing
10.0 - :contestblood: ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD BEGINS
10.5 - :contestblood: ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD
11.0 - :contestblood: ready! If used now, can use again at 20.0 <--- GRACE PERIOD
11.5 - :contestblood: ready! If used now, can use again at 21.5 <--- grace period expired; normal functionality
12.0 - :contestblood: ready! If used now, can use again at 22.0
12.5 - :contestblood: ready! If used now, can use again at 22.5
13.0 - :contestblood: ready! If used now, can use again at 23.0

http://deathknight.i...pic=8341.0;wap2

Tu tá perióda trvá 1,5s

Jeden frajer mu to ale opravil a napísal, že tá perióda má trvať 2,5s a to je to, čo si napísal ty.

Z toho mi presne vychádza, že použijem runu nabehne cd 10 sekund, cd nabehne s runou sa zapne aj grace period, použijem runu počas grace period napríklad 2,3 tak cd runy bude 7,7, použijem runu počas grace period v 2,5s po obnovení a runa bude mat cd 7,5, keď 1s po obnovení 8,5 atď

Stačí to ako dôkaz či sa ešte porozhliadnem? :)


EDIT: Dokonca na to existuje aj addon ktorý periódu zobrazí http://www.wowinterf...owfallRune.html

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 11:55 PM

Updating status to: Čeká na opravu od TC
Updating severity to: 4 - High

Začnu se v tom hrabat až na novém jádře. Ono to bude docela složitá oprava (možná) + je tam dost změn co do dobíjení run, jako např. při tom dodgi, tak se v tom nechci teď vrtat.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 10:15 AM

BUMP

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 01:18 PM

Updating status to: Opravené

problemy na novem jadre pls do noveho topicu


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