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Z dodgu podla mna NEMA byt rage. (ano, stara wowwiki hovori inak, podla mna len blby preklep, ktory odstranili az neskor)
- na inych serveroch, kde som hral to totiz bolo (podla mna) opravene.
"rage/hit says that you do generate rage from dodge. I found this exceedingly hard to believe so I went and tested it on my druid. There appears to be no rage generation from a dodge, or if there is, it is so small I could never observe it myself. Can anyone confirm the article's assertion? If not, this should be corrected. If so, what is the formula for dodge?" - z wowwiki z clanku "Talk:Rage - Normalisation(Burning Crusade)"
Definicia Rage:
"By default the rage bar is empty, and builds only by being hit, by dealing damage, or by using certain abilties."
Definicia Dodge:
"Dodge is a form of melee mitigation where the entire melee swing is avoided." => nie si hitnuty = 0 RAGE
Dalsia vec: "Rage can be generated with several different methods. The primary cause of rage generation is by being attacked, which varies based on damage taken. Attacks that are blocked, parried, or absorbed (as with Power Word: Shield) also generate rage. The druid feral talent Natural Reaction allows druids to generate a fixed amount of rage when they dodge."
- Shield a Natural Reaction su z WotLK-u, ale ziadna ina zmena v patchi ohladom dodge/rage nebola
Logicky mi to ani tak nepride... ved ked sa uhnem, nema ma co boliet a teda nemam ako produkovat Rage. Parry je ina vec, kedze tam bloknes zbranou = citis nejaky ten efekt.
Na ofiku som v dobach TBC nehral, takze nemam ziaden iny dokaz, len to logicky spochybnit... Ak tu niekto taky je, prosim o vysvetlenie MA / NEMA byt Rage z Dodgu (pripadne konkretne u warra), NIE dalsie veci typu "na wowwiki je to tak"
btw: som warr tank, takze ak to tak nema byt, bude mi lepsie :)
Thx :)
A este jeden EDIT, sice o druidovi, ale to je jedno, kedze sa jedna o dodge: "http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=34516"
snad to potvrdi to, ze aj wowwiki sa moze niekedy mylit :)
A este z jednej diskusie Parry vs Dodge: "http://www.tankingtips.com/2008/06/10/avoidance-outside-the-math-dodge-parry-defense-block/" - je tam toho o Dodge = no rage viac, lae sa zameriavaju hlavne na avoidance :)
"MadTanker reply on September 4, 2008 11:29 am:
I know this is really old, and may never be seen, but:
Dezdemone reply on June 11, 2008 9:37 am:
One point that should be mentioned is that just because you parry doesn’t mean you actually HIT the boss when you parry! No hit = No rage which means that your parry was worse than useless.
this isn’t true, if the boss attacks you and you parry that attack, it is still considered “the boss hitting you” though you take no dmg, you do still get incoming rage as though you were dmg’d. and if your gemmed for a bit of HR, you get the speed boost generating more rage and more threat.
Dodge an attack = no threat. No hit incoming = no rage, no faster white output = no threat or rage.
Dodgeing attacks is the best “avoidance” but it has no rage or threat increase with its build. I can see where this build is useful, however the parry build while not as much avoidance, does generate more rage and threat. The total avoidance by both builds side by side in the end is barely noticable in combat. However I think you would see a diffrence in the amount of rage and threat the parry build produces. All in all though,
Parry Vs Dodge: Style prefrence. More avoidance or more rage and threat. If my healer is top notch, im going parry all the way. 2k dps is no joke, and I dont want a mob to break cause of it. w/e it takes to make the most threat and live."
This post has been edited by Madmike: 25 June 2010 - 04:10 PM