Mystiq.org - forum: Replying To Nether Protection

Takze zasa zmena co sa tyka procu, podla vsetkeho ma procovat okrem direct dmgu aj z aplikacie akehokolvek shadow/fire spellu/debuffu, tie ticky channelov su tym padom pravdepodobne blud, ak nema aplikacia s dmgom nic spolocne tak by nebol dovod preco by mal procovat z tickov dmgu pri channel.


Drakedog 7

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01:48 nether prot tu procuje zo silencu od Shadowpriesta
08:06 dalsi proc NP od priestovskeho silencu
14:12 NP procol z warlocovho fearu
14:16 NP procuje z aplikacie dotky siphon life


Drakedog 8

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02:07 shadowpriest hodi SWP na locka a tomu procuje NP pritom ziadny dmg nedostal. (teda proc z aplikacie)
08:13 z aplikacie dotky procuje NP na enemy targete, (shadowburn to nebol, nieje na cooldowne)
15:00 proc z warlockovho Fearu
15:06 proc so Searing totemu od shamana


Boneshock 1

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4:47 warlock dostava vampiric touch a jemu procuje NP bez toho aby dostal nejaky DMG. (zasa len aplikacia)


Boneshock 2

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1:30 vpravo su vidno ability, NP tu procuje uz z aplikacie Drain lifu, ziadny shadow dmg mimo dotiek v ten moment nedostal.
6:19 zasa vpravo dmg ktory lock dostava, NP proclo z aplikacie Drain Lifu, ziadny shadow dmg sa tam nekonal.
6:28 tu procuje nether prot z petovho silencu!!! (je to tiez shadow spell)


http://jadefury.blog...on-is-fair.html
Takisto tu sa pise ze NP procuje z aplikacie vsetkych shadow/fire spellov.

"NP does not, nor has it ever, procced off of dot ticks. Only the application of a fire/shadow spell will trigger its activation." Toto by teda odpovedalo tomu co sa deje vo videu.

Tiez tento comment "I ran straight past 4 shadowpriests and easily lived. So, yeah. If you're going to spec destro, don't pass up this talent. That just saved me from about 9,000 damage easily." je daleko od reality mystiqu kde tento talent procuje LEN z direct dmgu.

Updating severity to: 3 - Medium

Takze aby to bolo zosumarizovane,

Warlock guide http://wowmb.net/for...ome_better_you/
"...This is a very important talent that can cause sudden threat reduction, and can save your life and reduce healing done on you..."
"... Nether Protection talent is very important on end-game fights where you get imminue to fire and shadow spells for a limited period of time and will cause mobs to reset aggro on you immediately like imps in terestian illhoof fight or Fatal Attraction in Mother Shahraz fight. This is a very important and life saving talent...".

Teda aj podla Warlocks Den by proc mal resetovat agro a k tomu procovat by malo z kazdeho ticku channeled spellov a z prveho ticku dotky.

Updating severity to: 2 - Fair

no wotlkovskej nether protection funguje jinak... tam se to spouští random class spellem a poskytuje to pouze snížení dmge na danou spell class. A když to srovnáme s comentem předtim:

Make VERY SURE that your demon phase tank, if he's a warlock, does not spec Nether Protection!!! If he does, and Nether Protection procs, your raid is VERY likely to wipe. Illidan will stop targeting the warlock tank and shadow blast the next on threat, which is a HUGE problem.
http://old.wowhead.c...2917#comments:0

navíc v Tempest Keepu (Grand Astromancer Capernian):
Nether protection? Tried tanking her this one time and noticed that she'll switch targets when the casted fireball was immune (NP up). I tried clicking it off asap so she would turn to me again. Pain in the ass to tank with NP..
http://www.wowhead.c...=20062#comments


Pokud by tudíž nether protection pouze redukovalo dmg, nebyl by problém. Ale nether protection co tu máme teď dává naprostou imunitu na FIRE a SHADOW...

nicméně tohle je už trochu OT

Tohle je zalezitost patche 2.4.2. pokud sem prelozil spravne a spravne pochopil tak na patchi 2.4.3. dochazi ke zmene??
Once the pre-WLK patch goes live, the redesigned Nether Protection will become a MUST HAVE for Warlock tanking instead of a no-no. Removal of the old immunity mechanic allows NPCs to stick to the caster, while he benefits from high mitigation from that school of magic. Note that it will effect ANY magic school, not just Shadow or Fire.
http://old.wowhead.c...2917#comments:0

Hlavne kdyby to pltilo vsude melo by to byt vsude napsane a ja to videl jen u toho illidana. Je mozny ze sem se prekouk sem nakej ztahanej tak se na to taky juknete. Dik

wowwiki - Illidan Stormrage (tactics): Positioning - ■1 Warlock Tank: Maxed shadow resistance gear, no points in Nether Protection - to by tam asi neměli pro srandu králíkům a když se to veme kolem a kolem, tak je to to samý, jako kdybyste tankovi hodili bublinu od palacha. A možná jsem to předtim nenapsal úplně správně: lepší by bylo, že za dobu trvání Nether Protection by jste měli jakoby shozený agro.

no prave .. warlocka poznam docela dobre a toto sa mi hned nezdalo .. a druha vec potom by warlock nemohol nic tankovat .. takze to stym agrom je naka kravina (IMG:http://forum.mystiq.org/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Prave sem prolezl wikinu i wowhead a nikde nic o nakym shazovani aggra...

tak to mi asi nieco uslo .. kde si vycital ze by to malo zhadzovat aj agro?